Making forms is too hard, too geeky. Time for something smoother.
There are three key parts to what is difficult:
- figuring out how to add inclusions. that's addressed by:
- build link and inclusion editor
- in-place access to markup documentation
- cue text by relevant rules
- intra-card layout. this is the least daunting part and the most difficult to fix; we don't really have a clear direction lined up yet. the problem is that we're currently using tinyMCE, which is really for creating text, not html. we ultimately need a drag / drop gui for moving and shaping divs. I suppose we should create an idea for build layout tool for Wagn and clarify that this is for *layout rules and *structure rules
- editing the rules for inclusions on templates without shifting context. Current thinking is to make the inclusions linkable so they produce a set editor for the relevant set...
The third one is the focus of this ticket.
so, rename this to something like "on templates allow editing of inclusion rules in place"? (and didn't we shift to calling these forms rather than templates?)
--John Abbe.....2013-03-11 22:58:17 +0000
makes sense, but let's keep this name for promotion purposes :)
--Ethan McCutchen.....2013-03-21 03:55:27 +0000
I think the main thing left here is making this work reasonably well in the rule editor (options) interface.
--Ethan McCutchen.....2013-03-21 15:08:52 +0000
I ended up redoing a good chunk of rule editor interface. Changes relevant to this ticket:
1. there are really now 3 ways to interact with each rule. closed, edit, and open.
2. if you cancel or save, it now takes you to open, which is the view that gives you access to the new plus card editing. That view is trimmed down.
--Ethan McCutchen.....2013-03-22 17:39:08 +0000
The first item in the solution is said to be "mostly" solved by a link/inclusion editor. What else is there?
--John Abbe.....2013-03-27 08:09:23 +0000
Good q. For one, I think we need in-place access to markup docs. I think there's a ticket about that somewhere (or there has been), but I don't know where.
But even beyond that, I think we need to teach the idea of +inclusions inline a bit more. It will be great to have an inclusion editor, but how do you know to click that? My guess is that this needs to involve really well-written cue text on the key rules.
--Ethan McCutchen.....2013-03-27 15:08:37 +0000
Sounds like the plan is for the link/inclusion editor to produce markup, which seems fine to me for now at least (could make it more GUI-ish later, as an option for markup-averse Wagneers). I like the teaching inquiry, so for example you mean something like "click on |image of link/inclusion/editor button| to add fields" by the *content rule once it's in edit view?
--John Abbe.....2013-03-27 19:17:27 +0000
something like that.
--Ethan McCutchen.....2013-03-27 20:36:59 +0000