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Good place to pose questions, comments, ideas, etc. Especially if you don't feel like figuring out how we're organizing stuff.


By the way: are the User cards included in the google search index? I don't see a robots exclusion tag!

--JCK.....Sun Nov 18 14:12:42 PST 2007


I downloaded and tried to install Wagn but got problem with require_gem not being recognized (I'm running Ruby 1.8.4 and Gems 1.0.1). I replaced those calls in boot.rb to just gem but then I got an "Uninitialized Active_Record::Base" message. Any ideas here?

--Michael Bauer (Not signed in).....Tue Dec 25 12:54:32 PST 2007


Rubygems 1.0 eliminates, I believe 'require_gem', doesn't it?

--Eric Kramer (Not signed in).....Fri Dec 28 08:21:17 PST 2007

-- so what is the fix for this problem? I get it when I try to run the rake db:migrate or try to start the script/server

-- TamaraTemple - Tue Feb 26 23:54 PST 2008


It appears that you need to do a 'gem install json' before this works.

--Eric Kramer (Not signed in).....Fri Dec 28 10:41:59 PST 2007


When I attempt the initial 'rake db:migrate' (with an empty MySQL database), everything builds up to (and including) the 'wiki_references' table. Immediately thereafter, rake aborts with this error: 'Exec format error - rake wagn:load_bootstrap_data'

--Eric Kramer (Not signed in).....Fri Dec 28 10:43:24 PST 2007


An update... The problem is in the `` references within 001_jump_to_version_109.rb. I'm on Windows and this Exec syntax didn't work (for whatever reason).

My workaround: (1) comments out line #125 (the rake system command call) within db/migrate/001_jump_to_version_109.rb, (2) run the initial migration 'rake db:migrate VERSION=1' (2) run 'rake wagn:load_bootstrap_data' myself, (3) run the remaining migrations: 'rake db:migrate'

I suggest someone try doing a brand new install as this might help reproduce the problem so you can fix migration 001. Thanks!

--Eric Kramer (Not signed in).....Fri Dec 28 13:19:02 PST 2007


Is there a syntax guide/page/card?

--Eric Kramer (Not signed in).....Fri Dec 28 14:51:30 PST 2007


I like the discuss here

--zhida.....Fri Dec 28 18:43:33 PST 2007


I haven't yet tried 0.9 out but the release mentions tsearch for postgresql. I'm currently using ferret+acts as ferret and happy with them for my apps, so I ask if tsearch has significant features over ferret, just in case i need those for future apps. TIA.

--Marcello Della Longa.....Wed Jan 02 04:02:44 PST 2008


I am attempting to install Wagn, and getting the following error:

---> (1471) : rake --trace db:migrate
(in /home/ttemple/Webs/wagn)
** Invoke db:migrate (first_time)
** Invoke environment (first_time)
** Execute environment
** Execute db:migrate
rake aborted!
#42000Access denied for user ''@'localhost' to database 'wagn_development'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.15.4/lib/active_record/vendor/mysql.rb:523:in `read'
[..SNIP..]
/usr/bin/rake:19

[~/Webs/wagn] 16:20:12

--The fix for this was to set the user to root rather than try to use another user
-- TamaraTemple Tue Feb 26 23:55 PST 2008

The installation instructions are missing some information as well.

--Tamara Temple (Not signed in).....Thu Feb 07 17:26:01 PST 2008


Tamara: check your database.yml configuration- make sure you can connect from the commandline using those parameters.

Marcello: we chose tsearch because we want to be able to integrate the text search with other constraints in a single query.

--Lewis Hoffman.....Fri Feb 08 10:23:43 PST 2008


Eric: belated thank you! for your work debugging the install. I'll add the bug with exec syntax on windows to our list for 1.0

--Lewis Hoffman.....Fri Feb 08 10:28:51 PST 2008


I'm running into a problem trying to create a User+*template card. It returns an error saying "Problem with card User+*template:
Content NoMethodError: You have a nil object when you didn't expect it! The error occurred while evaluating nil.strip!"

--Tamara Temple (Not signed in).....Tue Feb 12 11:43:09 PST 2008

Bump. Still no word on this.

-- TamaraTemple .... Tue Feb 26 23:56 PST 2008

Thanks for the bump. I filed a ticket (we're routing pretty much everything to the new ticket system). See problem creating User plus star-template. --John Abbe ...Feb 27


I was wondering is there a way from this level of Wagn to import things as a set of cards, or to import more complex html (I have some freemind diagrams I would like to see how they could be used as a basis for a set of cards). Is that sort of things:

a. Available at this level or do you need to get a wagn wheels account on the server to get import tools?
b. Available at all? Do you have to manually input each card manually? What's the best part of your site to find this?

--Stephen Lee.....Sat Feb 16 06:27:33 PST 2008

We definitely want to have easy import (among many other things), but there are no import tools at present. The options are to import stuff by hand, download Wagn and do your own importing into the SQL database, or hire us to do it. --John Abbe


I'm not seeing a way to change permissions on the Options tab. There are no menus to the left of the various permission types, just links to the current permission card. Is this a problem with FIrefox?

--Tamara Temple.....Wed Feb 27 16:56:40 PST 2008


If you're logged in and have a role that has "set card permission", you should be seeing menus. Did you look at the After installation section of Installation? --John

--John Abbe.....Thu Feb 28 09:16:48 PST 2008


What is the Hooze Bot user that comes in the default Wagn installation, and is there anything Wagn administrators can do with it?

--Scott Keeler.....Tue Mar 04 14:51:47 PST 2008


It should be Wagn Bot; the only place it's used right now is on cascading name changes: When you rename a card, links to that card are changed, and the revisions are attributed to the WagnBot-- the rationale is that if you didn't want to see all the cards with link fixes on recent changes you could filter out revision by the bot. (although I don't think we're actually doing that right now)

--Lewis Hoffman (Not signed in).....Tue Mar 11 10:48:07 PDT 2008


I think the other reason why we did it as the Wagn Bot was because of a permissions issue. What if I change the name of a card that is linked to from a card I don't have permission to edit. We thought this was a special case, since it tends to be beneficial to go ahead and let that person decided to change the links -- even on cards he/she can't see. It's an interesting issue that comes up when you use names as a significant identifier and yet make them fairly fluid.

I'm starting to think, though, that the better option would be to make it so that the edit is made in the name of the original person making the name change but should include. This is clearer (that's who triggered the change after all), but might include some sort of "minor" or "triggered" flag that lets us know it wasn't changed by hand.

--Ethan McCutchen.....Sun Mar 16 15:59:00 PDT 2008


I tried to install wagn from SVN trunk and got the error "Mysql::Error: Unknown column 'references_expired' in 'field list': update cards set references_expired=NULL where id=43" when running "rake db:migrate". It seems that the field 'references_expired' got added in migration 119 but was needed in 115 (before it's created). Did I do something wrong? Thanks.

--Felix Wu (Not signed in).....Wed Jun 04 22:14:54 -0700 2008


Hi Felix - we saw your note, will probably get to it later this week - we're in the middle of a big push for a Meyer Memorial Trust (our main funder) launch of their big website using Wagn.

--John Abbe.....Mon Jun 09 14:43:45 -0700 2008


Felix: the migration issue is fixed in svn now. you can re-check out or update and it the migrations should work.

--Lewis Hoffman.....Sun Jun 15 17:05:00 -0700 2008


Hi John & Lewis: Thanks a lot for the fix. It works for me now. BTW, the current SVN code base seems to work for Rails 2.0.2 but not 2.1.0 (the migration failed because of some changes for the Migrator class in 2.1.0).

--Felix Wu (Not signed in).....Wed Jun 18 11:29:06 -0700 2008


Thanks, Felix. We appreciate the feedback. We'll try to get 2.1 working for the impending wagn 0.10 release. btw, we'd be happy to invite you into wagn.org if you'd like. Easiest way is to click "request an invitation," but we could also just invite you if you send us your email.

--Ethan McCutchen.....Fri Jun 20 18:13:03 -0700 2008


I am getting:
uninitialized constant ActiveRecord::Base
when trying to run rake on a new wagn 0.9.1 install. (I replaced 'require_gem "rails"' with 'gem "rails"').

I have installed json. This is Gem 1.2.0, Ruby 1.8.4. Any ideas? I've never used Ruby before, so I'm rather stuck.

--Itamar Shtull-Trauring (Not signed in).....Thu Jul 03 10:24:56 -0700 2008


Here is a list for potential inclusion in Hooze:

http://www.millercoors.com/our-beers/nutrition-facts-codes.aspx

I think this is an example of information about consumer products that can serve as useful data.

There is a question in my mind about whether we should display it, however, because entry to alcoholic beverage sites is restricted to those of legal drinking age. Should this even be a concern? For what it's worth, I was able to navigate to this page from a google link without entering a birthdate. I know it's silly, because there's nothing to prevent minors from entering false info, but it's a question I think we should not ignore, especially insofar as it may have implications when we get into membership sites, etc -- see prior thread on this topic (Ethan).

 

When speaking with someone at an electronics manufacturer recently, he indicated they did not have url-specific info (custom urls for each piece of hardware) but that there was information about the hardware on the site. Would we want such source information? food labels for phones like food labels done by Green Building Council...?

JLB - not able to edit while not signed in, so don't understand above entries that indicate "not signed in" and yet have a name / signature...?

 

Here's one such url from Motorola: http://www.motorola.com/consumers/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=32702a1d12e89110VgnVCM1000008406b00aRCRD&vgnextchannel=8b871df4f3d89110VgnVCM1000008406b00aRCRD

 

and another one for another phone, with no apparent rhyme or reason for the url...

http://www.motorola.com/consumers/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2e6f7ad373e89110VgnVCM1000008406b00aRCRD&vgnextchannel=8b871df4f3d89110VgnVCM1000008406b00aRCRD

I'm sure this has meaning for internal programers, but my understanding is that this makes it more difficult to automate data input - correct?

 

 


Good example of easy startup: http://communitywiki.org/odd

  --John Abbe.....Mon Sep 22 22:51:37 -0700 2008